WHAT TO DO IF YOU DON'T GET INTO A COURSE
and/or get a message that you need department permission
IT MEANS one of the following:
- the course is fully enrolled for the time being
- course enrollment is reserved for a particular group of students
- it's an LPS course (College of Liberal and Professional Studies. Is there a .601 after the main course number?)
- It is a graduate level course for which all undergraduates need permission from the department or instructor of the course.
YOU CANNOT ask Drs. Aronowitz, Greene, Barnes, Benson or Ms. Brennan to give you a permit.
Only the course instructor can give you a permit, or the TA in a course if authorized by the course instructor.
YOU CAN do the following:
- Keep trying to register--sometimes places open up in the class and you can get in without a permit.
- Is the course crosslisted? Try to register for it under one of its other departments/numbers.
- Waitlist: Contact the course instructor and ask if they are keeping a waitlist and if you can be on it.
- Attend the class on the first day (HSOC and STSC instructors do not give permits to students who do not attend the first day of class)
- Understand that if the course is full, it is full. Keep trying to register.
- If it is an LPS course, there are special conditions--scroll down for more information.
"BUT I ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET INTO THE COURSE!"
- Unless its an LPS course*, contact the course instructor and ask if they are keeping a waitlist and if you can be on it.
- Talk to your major adviser and College advisers to verify if you absolutely need to get into the course.
- Plan to attend the first class
WHY CAN'T THE COURSE JUST ENROLL MORE STUDENTS?
- If the course is a seminar course, it cannot take in more students and remain a seminar course.
- If the course is a lecture course with recitations, the lecture could expand in size but the recitations cannot (1) there are only so many TAs available (2) recitation size cannot get too big
IF YOU GET A COURSE PERMIT FROM AN INSTRUCTOR
- Provide the instructor with your Penn ID number
- Make sure the course instructor contacts Ms. Brennan and has her issue you a permit.
WHY COURSES IN LPS ARE DIFFERENT:
- Because it is a different part of SAS
- LPS courses have strict quotas on non-LPS students (the College, Wharton, etc.) and these quotas remain in place until the second day of the term. If the quota is filled, you will get a message saying you need "department permission."
- There are no permits for LPS courses before the second day of the term.
- Therefore you cannot register for the course. Though you may receive a message saying you need a permit, this is only because the system had identified you as a non-LPS student. There are no permits for non-LPS students.
- Even if the system shows that the course is not full and has room in it, this is because it is being held open for LPS students, but not for other undergraduates.
- What to do: Wait until the second day of the term when unclaimed slots are available for non-LPS students, and attend the first meeting of the course